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Hey Guys I'm sorry I didn't post it earlier (patience is a virtue FAE.) but I had a trip to the hospital and I'm still on muscle relaxers and in a lot of pain. But anyway. This book is cooler than me being lame (literally).

So I'd like everyone to read to chapter 17 in Until Proven Guilty that's just a little over the 200 page mark. The problem I was having, chosing a chapter, was that all the chapters are short and typically J.A. Jance books are very easy reads.. but what I'm interested in, after thinking about it.. is a good talk about WHO DONE IT? What are YOUR predictions for the book?

That way when we finish this we'll all know. :)

Happy reading!


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Jul. 20th, 2010 12:53 am (UTC)
Re: End of Chapter 16
It annoyed me too, to think this amazing Cop (cause he is!) isn't seeing through such BS, or could be BS, at this point in the book I'm second guessing my ideas. Is it just so obvious it can't be right? Is she really good looking enough to ignore?

What I can say is JP is out of a divorce, lonely, drinking and making the wrong choices in this book. Probably a little lost on a lot of things. I still like his character. I want him to be better. I want him to figure everything out before its too late or he's dead too.

I think for me it's an easy enough read. Sometimes you don't want something overly complicated and more heres a mystery solve it sort of sense. This isn't Jance's best, not at all. But it's the first of the series and so it's got a soft spot to me.

Does she get better? Will it get better by the end of the book?

Do you find any of it enjoyable?
Jul. 23rd, 2010 03:15 am (UTC)
Stopped at Chapter 17
Okay. I have to admit that I misjudged this book - and possibly the genre. It's not nearly so painful as I imagined it would be. Although, granted, I hardly managed not to vomit all over my blanket when I read, in the second paragraph no less, "like so much garbage". I hate that phrase mostly because it's so overdone. There was no creativity there.

But whatever. I liken the writing style to that of Stephen King: there's some good descriptions, flashbulb moments where it gets all bright and clear, but mostly it's plot-based writing. And woo, it definitely reads like it was written from an outline.

It also read really quickly. Nothing like 1984, that's for damned sure, lol.

I'm also glad that the book was very clear that the cult was just that - a cult, not a true faith - and the main character pointed out that even though there was Bible quoting going on, it was wholly out of context. Most of the stuff I saw was from Romans, and I'm fortunate enough to have just finished reading Romans. Wow, talk about out of context! The "law" that the dood harped on? It wasn't even legal law; it was law of the church, or basically, the rules that the church established for its patrons. It was nothing like what Brodie was saying it was. So... Yes. I was glad for those things. I wasn't nearly so angry as I thought I'd be.

So... Predictions:

I don't think that the person who killed Angela was the same person who killed Brodie and Suzanne. I don't know yet who killed either, but killing a kid doesn't seem to be in the fabric of the cult and I honestly don't think it was the old lady busybody neighbor. That leaves the enigmatic Uncle Charlie, who is neither of the cult nor a neighbor nor a family member. I don't know who he is; the book hasn't given me any clues. But because there are no clues, I think that's who did it. (If there WERE clues, it would be obvious - or not - that he did it, and then the mystery novel has lost its driving force, which is the "whodunit" aspect.)

As for Suzanne and the preacher, that one was pretty obvious. It's the lady in red, the one that our lovely protagonist is shacking up with. She's seriously disturbed -- going to strangers' kids' funerals and bawling, "falling in love" with our sub-par cop of a hero, and by all marks, acting wholly unlike a sane, rich, smart, savvy, well-educated woman would -- and I wouldn't be surprised if she's some sort of self-appointed vigilante, running around and "righting wrongs" that the system never did - or couldn't, due to her interference.

So, that's what I've got.

I also feel like I've cheated by waiting until Thursday night to read/write all this down. I honestly just didn't want to have to stop in the middle of the book, wait a few days, then pick it up again. Hee. I'm a cheat.

But I love you!
Jul. 24th, 2010 05:04 am (UTC)
stopped at chapter 17
i just was able to get the book at the library yesterday so i spent a big part of today reading it. it's actually a 3-story hardcover so it weighs like 20 lbs, i think i got carpal tunnel.

it's not bad. i thought it would be worse, i don't know why. it's an easy read and some of the witticisms are cute. if it ends well i may just keep on reading the next 2 stories in the series.

at first i thought ladyinred killed the girl in order to frame the cult somehow, since they're child-beaters and she's had a history with them.

but then when it became more obvious that she killed the pastor and the dead girl's pushover mom, i'm left wondering who killed the girl. i started to suspect peters for a minute, but i forget why now... it was something he said. plus it was his idea to use the secret recording, and he could have put the tape there on purpose and then faked a voice to try to pretend he was some other guy when he walked in and shot them.

who the hell is uncle charlie?!

also, i think the lady in red is a serial killer and that's why she does the out of place dressing in all red with the rose and the car. it's like her business card or whatever.

i didn't think beaumont was that stupid at first; i chalked it up to thinking with the wrong head. but then she proposes and he says yes? wtf?! come on, man. that's one too many red flags. how did he ever make detective?

oh, in the first couple of chapters i cracked up because the old lady's cat was SO the cheat... listen:

We entered the kitchen. A large grey cat, standing in the sink lapping water from a leaky tap, eyed us speculatively (...) "That's Henry Aldrich. He doesn't talk much but he's good company."

large. grey. has a first and last name. drinks from taps instead of bowls. gives you "the look" when you walk in. lol, it's the cheat! then it got better:

The gray cat meandered in from the kitchen. He favored us with an insolent look, then leaped to the back of the couch. Once there he stretched out, languidly settling himself directly between Peters and me. I wondered how much gray cat hair would be on my brown jacket and trousers when I stood up.

i swear my cat did some consulting work on this book.

so back to business, the male voice on the recording. if it's not peters, i doubt it could be the old lady throwing her voice. and it seems too obvious that it's uncle charlie but i don't even know who that is yet so there's no telling.

unless carstogi has a split personality and he actually did do it. or if ladyinred somehow conned him into it, since she's so good at making men do anything she wants.

i guess it's too early to tell.
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